170112 Soyul and Moon Heejoon for SFUNBOX

ezekiel

soyul….TT

Geo

She looks different: more mature I think.

CP Ranger

Yes, she looks more mature here.

CP Ranger

Hah… why do I keep reading as an advertisement for SNUF box? I guess tobacco is also used for weight loss… mwa haha

Gabe Santiago

Most importantly, Soyul looks more happy & content than she’s been in a long while! I’m very jealous, but very happy for her and her future husband. May they both have long & happy lives together! I think that it is so sad that the other members of Crayon Pop – i.e twins Choa & Way ; Ellin & Geummi seemed to have abandoned her! They don’t even acknowledge her anymore. That breaks my heart & crushes my impression that they are sweet & kind and considerate. I think that both Soyul and Moon Hee Jon should start an Idol duet; that would definitely work for them considering how popular they both are. I guess this may be the end of Crayon Pop as we knew them. Oh well, after almost five years, the wave of the most popular & beloved K-Pop girls group in all of Korea has finally leveled off. No doubt, Choa & Way will find plenty of work in musical & dramatic theatre, may be TV or films. Same with Geummi; as for Ellin, with her charm, sense of humor, stage presence; and the fact that Ellin is definitely a grand prize winner – DNA wise – when it comes to physical beauty, she can write her own ticket as a entertainment personality. Good luck to all of them. It was a Heck of a ride!

asd

they have abandoned her?are you trying to blame the other 4?she didn’t even tell them in first place.she can be happy and married all she wants,i have seen a lot comment trying suddenly to make the other 4 the “bad ones” when her behavior was the unprofessional one.may be the end of Crayon Pop?really?they work hard all these years just to end like that?.are you fan of the whole group?they can easy go on as 4 they don’t lack in anything.trully crayon pop’s fans will support them.
to me it seems that she has abandoned the group.she took hiatus due ‘panic disorder’ but she was able to make plans for her wedding all along,photoshoots,honeymoon,endorsing with her rich husband while the other 4 work hard.she did wrote letters to her fans ask for forgiveness and support of course but i don’t see her to the same for her members and the company after the way she treat them…..
- Gabe Santiago
  
  Soyul has done nothing to deserve your petty & mean-spirited comments concerning her. If you’ve heard comments criticizing the other four members, I’m not surprised! I guess, sadly, I was right in my suspicion of them. Soyul has been a consummate professional from the very beginning. Soyul was the co-star of a television show; did commercials before she became a member, as well as the mascot for Crayon Pop when they were known as “Hurricane Pop” – Before Way came in to replace the former senior member. Soyul has been instrumental in the group’s dance routine rehearsals; she’s lend her artistic talents in promoting Crayon Pop. Soyul has more than paid her dues. Her bout with chronic anxiety disorder was something that could’ve happened to anyone who works as hard as she did. As for Moon Hee Jon & Soyul, I’m guessing they’re both pretty well off, financially. What’s wrong with Moon being rich? I’ll tell you, “asd”, there’s nothing wrong at all! He can take care of her like any responsible husband should. You must hate Soyul or something! She did nothing wrong. She deserves better than you criticizing her; some fan you are!
  - asd
    
    YOU and her fans are the ones criticizing and spread faulse rumors(like your first comment you find the need to drag down the other 4 for her sake SOME FAN YOU ARE) about the other four members so to make her looks like she is the victim when she is not…why are you hating the other 4 when they did nothing wrong in the first place?why are you a hater?why she didn’t inform the other 4 and her company?clearly because she doesn’t give a damn about the others.The other 4 has done nothing to deserve your petty & mean-spirited comments concerning them.but hardcore fan i have to give you a plus you said something right lets hope her and her husband should start an Idol duet so the other 4 continue with peace in mind as CRAYON POP
    YOU START BADMOUTH THE OTHER 4 WITHOUT REASON STOP IT AND START TO RESPECT THE OTHER 4 FOR THEIR HARD WORK AS WELL FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND MORE FOR THIS COMEBACK FAKE WHOLEGROUP FAN.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      I’m not a hater; I’ve been supporting Crayon Pop since their beginning in 2012. I’ve done plenty to promote their talents & good will. I’ve even communicated with them in the beginning; giving them advice & encouraging them. You, “asd” are hysterical. I’m only telling you the truth about the other 4’s indifference. They seem to consider Soyul’s illness as an annoyance, rather than a source for concern for a fellow group member who has done more than her share. I would believe that you are the “hater” for throwing Soyul under the bus. Frankly, I don’t think you care about Soyul’s & Moon’s happiness, at all. Like you said; you’ve heard things said about the other girls; well, it just supports what I’ve felt in my guts for sometime, now. You should be ashamed for trashing Soyul & Moon. I’ve only told you the truth & you can’t seem to handle it. That’s your problem. Being defensive isn’t going to win you any points for being a fan, just a “fanatic!” I suggest you calm down before you get an anxiety attack.
    - asd
      
      you are a fan since 2012 of the whole group?:)
      
      They seem to consider her illness as an annoyance, rather than a source for concern for a fellow group member who has done more than her share AND YOU KNOW THAT HOW DEAR?DO YOU LEAVE WITH THEM?ARE A MEDIUM OR SOMETHING?THIS IS NOT A FACT STOP HATING THE OTHER 4 AND SPREAD FAULSE RUMORS. me hating her?LOL hardcore fan you didn’t seem to read my comment right i even wish her be happy and married i said she should treat her members better as a group member,and about you and your hate.if i was gummi choa way or ellin and see your comment i would fell really proud. more like i would reconsinder the meaning of a true fan.i don’t get anxiety attacks like others.you have to relax and work hard so you don’t follow your idols path.i’ll be cheering for you
    - asd
      
      *live So you dont confused!!see i really care about your well being.
    - asd
      
      do you want more fake fan?ellin has posted not long ago a video celebrating someones birthday if i remember well and she was in there too with rest of the members having fun?so what are you talking about?are you that eager to blame the other 4?she doesn’t post or say anything about the other girls but i don’t see you blame her like you do with the other 4?your true fan face come to the surface.sleep well!!!!!
    - asd
      
      lets talk more i am having fun talk with you!!!ellin has isomnia but i don’t see anyone talk about that ONLY HER TRUE FANS IN HER INSTAGRAM.i can easily accuse the members that they don’t care about her like you you did with your comment.i can easily accused your beloved member that she cares about her wedding more than her fellow member that suffers and spread rumors in group fanpages like you did that she doesn’t care from the moment she does not post anything, but i am mature and sane enough to think and understand that i don’t know what happend in their daily lifes.that you just did with your comment is very cruel for the rest that you are supposed to love and support from the moment you don’t know anything.
      i am sure that the girls support ellin this whole time because i am a true fan and care about their well being.
ezekiel

i don’t think they abandoned her.. ellin still defending soyul, when some idiot fans accuse her to be pregnant.. same with the twins.. and geummi, we all know she love soyul like her younger sister..
i think they don’t talk about soyul to avoid public pressure from soyul.. let’s wait and see guys.. way strongly said, they won’t disband.. and looks like chrome preparing for strawberry milk comeback to wait for soyul..
- Wojcik117
  
  They’re preparing?
  - ezekiel
    
    just our prediction.. with all twins tv and there are twins fans portal that approved by chrome(http://900712.net/#home).. i think they will promote strawberry milk and wait for soyul.. and soyul herself still use crayon pop soyul to addressed her self.. so i feel so sad to see some sketchbook here torn apart..TT
- Gabe Santiago
  
  *You bring up a very good point, “Ezekiel” – I have considered exactly the same thing. But to maintain a wholesale and sustained silence on the matter; especially the lack of a public congratulation to both Soyul & Moon Hee Jon on the occasion of their recent engagement to be married is troubling to me. You may be right about the remaining group members desire to not focus any undue attention to her absence; however, it wouldn’t have been anymore than a kind recognition of a time of happy celebration for a fellow group member. Time will tell, the closer the date of their wedding approaches.
  - ezekiel
    
    we don’t know what happen behind the camera my friend…. but from the member reaction, they all know about soyul and moon he joon dating.. maybe only the ceo who didn’t know about it..(i feel sorry for him though).. i’m sure they already congratulate soyul, just don’t share it for public.. you know K-netz sometime can be so cruel to them.. ^^
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *You bring up an important and rather sad fact that the entertainment industry in the Republic Of Korea (South Korea) as in, as well, in the United States can be a very difficult and adversarial environment; given the egos; prima donnas; and certain individuals who “enjoy” seeing a perceived rival “fall from grace.” I do not mean to imply anything specific, just generally. There are also great fans, and fans you wouldn’t wish on your worse enemy. Maybe I’m old fashion; I think that as soon as the group as a whole found out – unless they were specifically told by Soyul & Moon not to say anything, which I couldn’t imagine why they would, should have made a public acknowledgement & a statement of support & congratulations. That’s all I’m saying. I’m all for privacy, believe me, I just found it a bit out of place for a group, i.e. Crayon Pop, which by all public observation seem very close and like family to each other would be so utterly silent on the matter. Frankly I think it would’ve been the right thing to do; both professionally and as a matter of common love & decency. Call me strange!
Wojcik117

Of course she looks happy, these are freakin advertisement photos.

The topic is very sensitive, so I’ll try to carefully point out the things I disagree with you about, hoping the discussion won’t turn any worse than it is now.
You said that the four members seem to have abandoned her and don’t even acknowledge her anymore. I don’t know what exactly were you referring to, but I wouldn’t put any blame on the four members nor accuse them of anything. Soyul, however… You said she did nothing wrong. Well, it’s all about how she decided to handle her situation. How do you say it in English? It’s not all ‘black and white’. We don’t know what was the reason she said about the marriage to the fans first. Maybe it was because we were in fact so important for her that she thought we should get to know first, maybe she was afraid her agency won’t praise the idea so she didn’t let them know… we really don’t know that. But look at it from Chrome’s perspective. The agency is supposed to take care of its artists’ image, meanwhile it got to know that it’s artist is getting married through the Internet. People were like “It that true? They’re getting married!?” and all Chrome could respond was “…we wished to know as well” (not an actual quotation, but you get the idea). They couldn’t make a statement until they finally managed to get in touch with Soyul.
I do not put a blame on anyone because I am not fully informed, nor is my opinion meaningful. I just wanted to say that if someone (ex. Chrome) thought Soyul was highly unprofessional in her actions, I would be able to understand that opinion for the reason mentioned above.
- tern
  
  excatly!we need to protect way gummi ellin choa from nasty comments like these who try to bring hate to them and lets not forget from imature and false comments easily an unfair witch hunt against the girls could start from general haters of the group just to bring them down like t-ara girls case
- Gabe Santiago
  
  *If Chrome Entertainment seriously implies, somehow that falling ill to a serious stress-related condition, not uncommon to those in the entertainment industries as being “unprofessional”, or that somehow falling in love with a devoted & sharing & compassionate soulmate in the midst of personal challenging circumstances – finding, hopefully, true love under the worst of times “unprofessional”, then I find that Chrome Entertainment to be lacking not only professionalism, but plain human compassion. May I inform you “Wojcik117” if you missed the memo: in the 21st Century, slavery is over; human chattel is over. Even under contract there are basic common sense considerations in human terms that should be thought of in terms other than a particular corporation’s bottom line, or “inconvenience.” I believe that both Soyul & Moon Hee Jon have acted in good faith to their respective fans in their responses to questions about their pending marriage. Far and above the consideration than has been shown to them.
  - Wojcik117
    
    I did not mention her illness. I did not condemn her getting married. My comment is about the way she’s chosen to reveal the information.
    - tern
      
      lol my friend why you even try…the whole thing is biased as heck..she just like a comment that wrote excatly the opposite from her opinion about the 4 members in the first place.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *Here’s another “News Flash”, Wojcik117, how one choses to divulge one’s personal information publically; especially as it relates to her plans to marry her intended, her business, and she not required to clear her future plans with her future husband, so long as she is not in breech of her contractual responsibilities. Soyul is not; and frankly how she & Moon chose to disclose their plans to marry & when is their business; period. Chrome Entertainment is not the D.P.R.K.; and frankly I believe that generally, Soyul’s & Moon’s fan base are, and have been very supportive. She is an employee, not an indentured servant. Get a grip!
guest

There are many fans, like myself, who feel that Soyul’s recent behavior is selfish. You are just pissing people off with your comment. The other 4 girls have been working hard to keep the fans happy these past few months and are clearly very dedicated to Crayon Pop. The way I see it, Soyul is the one who has abandoned us and the girls. She has deleted her instagram and cut off almost all contact between herself and the fans. In the past 3+ months we have only heard from her two times. One of them being to tell us she is getting married out of the blue. She didn’t even bother to sign the meet&greet albums but she somehow has all this time and energy to plan her wedding/honeymoon, and take photoshoots with her to-be husband. She probably won’t even be signing the Winter party albums either nor will she be attending the party as her Hawaii honeymoon vacation is more important. Seems like all she cares about now is Moon Hee Jun. To suggest that they should disband just because of Soyul is ridiculous.
- Gabe Santiago
  
  *There are many fans, like myself, who feels that Soyul’s recent behavior has been totally appropriate & reasonable. The only “selfish” ones here are the so-called “fans”, like yourself, “guest” who cannot handle the truth that you & your fiends selfishly feel that Soyul cannot have a life of her own, let alone take a medical-related leave of absence for a legitimate ailment. Chronic Anxiety Syndrome is an ailment that affects more people around the world than is being reported. Because so many have it, it’s a source of embarrassment for some to admit it. This should not be so in the 21st Century. I don’t directly know how the relationship between Soyul & the other girls of Crayon Pop, or the relationship between Soyul & Chrome Entertainment has soured, but I can tell you that the legitimate questions I’ve brought up about Crayon Pop’s & Chrome Entertainment’s initial & subsequent reactions, and lack of supportive statements to Soyul’s & Moon Hee Jun’s public announcement of their engagement made some people feel “pissed off” because they know that I’m right. It might just be that out of spite, Soyul has been cut-off of participating from future Crayon Pop activities. Sorry, ‘guest’, if the difficult/ hard truth is uncomfortable or inconvenient. I wish nothing but every happiness and the best for Soyul & Moon, and Crayon Pop. Soyul & Moon have done nothing wrong; everyone else – not so sure – that’s right I said it!

Soso Bolous

I’m sorry for sayin this but shame on her !!! I believed since the news of her getting married that the anxiety disorder was an excuse .. mybe Chrome didn’t accept her marriage!! No matter the reason is but she’s so selfish:(

tern

you don’t need to be sorry for your opinion.a lot say that maybe she did fake her anxiety disorder just to get sympathy and doing that during a comeback is the best way for the news to get well known.we don’t know if its true or not but indeed a lot companies in general tell some lies in the first place to protect their idols.she is not selfish for the fact that she want to get married she is old enough to do something like that ,she is the wrong one for not tell her company and her members about her wedding plans.yes that was selfish from her part and odd she could easily inform her company days before or even hours to stop from make them act like clowns that didn’t know anything.
Firefall

To be fair, it was not Soyul or Chrome that said she was having an anxiety disorder. She was diagnosed by a doctor in a hospital and found that she was suffering from the early stages of anxiety disorder. But neither you nor I know everything about this, so you could be right. However, I rather be wrong and found out she is not sick than calling someone who might be suffering a liar.
- Soso Bolous
  
  Can you tell me the name of the hospital she went to to say that she was diagnosed by a doctor 🤔!!
  - Firefall
    
    I tried to find the original (translated) post from Chrome here, but I’m not having much luck. I don’t remember if they mentioned the name of the hospital or not, but even if they didn’t give all the details, it had enough for me to trust it. Like I said before, neither you nor I have all the facts. We choose to believe what we want to believe. However, IMO, if you’re going to accuse someone of lying about being sick, you need to do some serious fact finding first.
    - Soso Bolous
      
      Firt of all, Pass it to me when you find it🙂 .. And let me tell you that when they first said that she’s sick I actually cried cause I know how anxiety is awful!! But when the news of her marriage came up I was too disappointed cause I felt that my prayers was such a waste to someone who doesn’t care about her fans .. she made us worried for nothing while she was planning for her wedding .. say whatever you want I AM DONE with this
    - Firefall
      
      Would it make you happy if Soyul posted a picture of her cowering in the corner of a dark room with the caption “I want to die” instead? Would your prayers be “wasted” then? Is that how you want her to show how much she cares about her fans? Of course not! I do not believe that would make you feel happy for one second! If you had the faith to pray for her, why is it so hard to believe that your prayers, along with the prayers and well wishes from all her fans, some how reached her and gave her the strength to try and live a normal life. If her struggles to live a normal life and find happiness is “selfish”, than I hope Soyul will be the most selfish person in the world. TBH, the only reason I replied to your post was not to change how you think or feel, but I thought you didn’t know about the Chrome announcement or had forgotten about it. But if you have already read it but believe that Chrome conspired with Soyul to deceive Chrome, than really I have nothing to say and the whole thing is a waste of my time.

Paul Nikel

Great to see Soyul, Looking foward to when she returns
Great looking advertising nice one Soyul & Moon Hee-Jun

Way’s Girls Recruit

On another note, it looks like Soyul is pandering to the public to fulfill Way’s high demand for membership fees. That garbagey gift offering was not enough to please General Way!

CP Ranger

I dunno… could have been gold bullion in there. Snuff boxes + Gold are a gangsters ‘bread & butter.’

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- John Vawter
  
  When I first saw it I thought it looked like a brick of illegal drugs, like heroin. I’ve watched too many cop shows.

ELCHO

I had to leave a comment…Well for me I feel bad for 4 other members which tried to keep their FIRST FULL ALBUM promotion without one member. I was in deep shock when Chrome said that they’re not in touch with Soyul and they know nothing about her plans. I’m not gonna be an angry beacause she want to start a new life and have her own family it’s not bad but it comes very unfair when rest of the members you have deep in the “I don’t care” hole. She was rude to girls,someone said that it’s her private life and she didn’t had to inform members about her marriege…Well if she is close with Geummi she should inform her. It was rude what she have done. Communication is the best so why she don’t use it? Sad to say but she lost in my eyes and I will sound like not fan but..I wouldn’t cry if I would read a news that Soyul left CP and new Crayon Pop will be promote with 4 members. Because it was selfish what she have done and lost a trust to her…I’m sory to all Soyul fans but it’s mine opinion. Chrome should give a girls comeback and be happy

Drakis07

I didn’t want to comments but what i saw in the comments here have sadden me, so i had to. It seem that Crayon Pop fans are divided and almost at war right now with each others and everyone seem to look for someone guilty and someone to blame. It’s like Soyul fans versus the other four girls fans. Some blame Soyul, some blame the other four girls.

I want to remind everyone that we don’t know anything about what really happen between the members and Soyul. We know nothing about what the member really knew about about Soyul situation like her illness, her dating and her wedding. ALL THAT WE HAVE ARE THEORIES AND RUMOUR and you all act like you know everything.

Why can’t we wait and see what will happen in the future and have more REAL official informations rather then theories and rumours and starting to judge Soyul or the other girls without proof. We fans should be united and not divided like right now.
Like i said we don’t know NOTHING, SO STOP MAKING THEORIES that Soyul will left Crayon, that Crayon may be finish and disband, that maybe Crayon pop will go on at four, etc… Maybe Soyul will comeback with Crayon, maybe not but we don’t know the true, so stop speculate like you know everything of their life.

I want to see the fan united again and support ALL the girls no matter what they decide to do.

Sorry for the log rant but i had to do it.

ezekiel

well said.. we need to be united at time like this.. sketchbook fighting!!!
Drakis07

There is one thing i would like to add too, we Crayon pop fans are known to be mature, supportive, close of our girls so why not showing it. Most of us are around 30 and 40 years old so why not act as mature adult and not like immature kids and be mature, supportive and united fan for our girls in hard time like we did in the past and no matter what our girls decide to do with their life.
That’s what i always did and that i will always do and i’m proud to be a sketchbook and also pop-jhussi and i will always be there for my 5 young sisters. Crayon pop fighting, Sketchbook fighting! Pop, pop Crayon pop!!
WMoksg

Well said everyone, we all love CP , EVERY ONE OF THEM are precious and adorable to most of us so let us not speculate and divide. Yes we’re dealing with reality and not fantasies so 1. let live and let’s live by seeing our girls choosing their paths freely no matter how much we idolise and support them. 2.The rest of the girls carried out their comeback promotion “quietly” without speculating about their beloved member, so let’s not do the very thing they wouldn’t want us to do – divide and split the fandom. I’m absolutely sure the girls and Soyul are in total damage control. ok let’s us support them in whichever path each and as as the group had chose. Peace to all .
Gabe Santiago

*I agree with all that you’ve stated; 95%. As for the other 5%, I must inform those on this communique thread, it was never my intention to incur enmity among the fan base of Crayon Pop, or to cast aspersions upon the remaining members of Crayon Pop, or those connected with Chrome Entertainment. My initial and only goal, as expressed in my prior comments were to stand up & defend Soyul, and her intended, soon to be husband Moon Hee Jun. I harbor no ill will towards Choa, Way, Geummi or Ellin, who I acknowledge has come to the defense of Soyul, who has been, regrettably subjected to ugly rumors connected to her present state of health; I will not go no further, as I believe that said rumors are scurrilous, mean-spirited & petty. I defended Soyul and her fiancé against what I believe to be a lack of fairness towards this beautiful couple. Drakis07 – I’m glad you said what you said – I absolutely have no problems with your comment. I’m only specifying my motivations – my reasons for my previous comments – as only motivated by a desire to defend Soyul & Moon; unfortunately placed in a position where they cannot defend themselves as any human beings ought to have the right to defend themselves. Note: I never meant for the escalation of words; but I will never apologize for standing up & taking responsibility for my words and for standing up for Soyul – a really wonderful human being – as well as a talented performer. All my best wishes to Soyul, Moon, and the members of Crayon Pop.
- asd
  
  how is your anxiety attack?stop trying to play it that you care about the other 4 members when you accuse them with the worst way possible.YOURS WORDS (If you’ve heard comments criticizing the other four members, I’m not surprised! I guess, sadly, I was right in my suspicion of them) I think that it is so sad that the other members of Crayon Pop – i.e twins Choa & Way ; Ellin & Geummi seemed to have abandoned her! They don’t even acknowledge her anymore. That breaks my heart & crushes my impression that they are sweet & kind and considerate.
  you trying desperately to save something you can’t anymore.and stop from liking the other 4 girls pictures in the future because you make them feel dirty with your fake love and concern.glad to see that a lot answer you back they all get what kind of fan you are..
  - Gabe Santiago
    
    It would seem, “asd”, that you are the one having an apoplexy, not I. If I see an injustice, I will speak out on it. Fully acknowledging that people are not perfect, I can admire someone, while questioning their actions. I’m not a sycophant, where I believe no one can do no wrong. It would seem that you and I are at variance in our whole view of one or more celebrity. I was making an honest observation & expressing an honest feeling of disappointment & frustration. If you have a problem with that, I’m sorry, but I stand by my earlier comments. If I should be proven wrong, which is entirely possible; after all, I’m only human too, I will be more that happy to make a full public apology. Until then, “asd”, I hope you enjoy the weekend!
    - asd
      
      you was making an honest observation & expressing an honest feeling of disappointment & frustration by trashing the other 4 members without a reason.you can defend all you want your beloved member but watch out because the other girls have fans too who want to protect them from people like you.this whole marriage case i see and here and general in other articles get a lot positive comments and support even in netizens buzz..in this article nothing bad was said before your comment of course ……….. we should give you the award of 2017 best fan material hope in the future 1st you to go and see a doctor and don’t see any fake like or comment for the 4 four members from you..hope you enjoy not only your weekend but the rest of you whole life too less of a hater of course!!
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      * I believe I’ve been very supportive of the pending marriage of Soyul & Moon. I’ve always been supportive of both Crayon Pop & the company representing them – Chrome Entertainment – I’ve always said that of all the K-Pop entertainment industries, Crayon Pop has to my knowledge, anyway, have always treated Crayon Pop members quite well. Where have you been? Perhaps your hysterics has affected your ability to read English; you have my sympathies. I stand behind my comments. Those who get – no explanation is necessary; those, like you, who don’t get it – no explanation will suffice.
    - asd
      
      you acusse both the company and the members with really bad false rumors with your previous comments(go and read them again) but of course in the end you always have been suporting them…mental case indded sorry fake fans don’t deserve my sympathies.the amount of people answer you show us excatly what’s going on here. Perhaps your hysterics has affected your ability to remember what you write in the first place .keep calm and sleep well.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      I’ve expressed legitimate concern for fairness, where Soyul is concerned. What is your problem, anyway? The way you’re reacting, I’ve might’ve hit it pretty close to the mark. This is not North Korea, where one cannot “dare” question anything. My motives were of defending someone who’s not able to defend themselves without the appearance, by some, of being guilty of something or another. That’s the distorted nature of the world we live in, today. I will never be ashamed of defending people who I feel was not being treated with respect. If you have a problem with that, than you should check out your own motives, which from where I’m sitting, is very suspect as is your phony “outrage.”
    - asd
      
      try harder i never hate anyone in my comments in the first place(you did that with your very first comment) i only point your hate four the 4 girls
      defending someone who’s not able to defend themselves… i think both of them are old enough and have the free to defend themselves. did i say something about that you can’t defend your beloved at all?but i would never accept that fact that you try to harm the girls for your selfish reasons are you right on your mind.?do you understand what you did write against the 4 members with your in the first place from the moment they defend her so why you accuse them?.lest hope in the future she does the same for her members and thanx them for their hard work in this comeback.MENTAL CASE INDEED.i am gonna let you have the last word that all you care about..you don’t seem to uderstand what everyone try to tell you..such waste of time..
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      * You are delusional & a disgrace & a joke. I’m sorry I ever wasted my time trying to be reasonable with an individual – you – who is completely unhinged & unreasonable. I don’t want to believe that you are as stupid as you sound; you’re just stubborn. You’re welcome to be stubborn at your leisure. I guess I should’ve remembered an old saying…”Don’t waste your time arguing with an idiot.”
    - asd
      
      excatly waste time over a delulu you came sane finally
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      * I see & read that you’re having more difficulty writing in English.
    - asd
      
      keep waste your time:)

Clay

I’m upset Geummi said she wanted to be a man if born again. At least Soyul is acting like a young lady and getting married.

CP Ranger

Hmm… when I was a kid, I remember watching an American TV show called Quantum Leap. A scientist time traveled by temporarily taking the place of other people (taking over their bodies) in order to correct historical mistakes (altering events in the past for the better). He would embody women, different ethnicities, people with disabilities and even children. I was too young at the time to understand all of the social commentary involved. But, I see now how it helped create a sense of empathy for others.

So, please try not to be too upset over Geummi’s answer about being re-born as a man. You’re missing the extremely obvious fact that she is presently very much a woman. A very sexy woman. 🙂
https://twitter.com/CrayonPopRanger/status/811425648312885248
- Gabe Santiago
  
  *Couldn’t have said it better myself! Whooot – Wheeeew! ♥
Wojcik117

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John Vawter

Isn’t Geummi’s favorite superhero Iron Man? Maybe she just wants to be strong to defend the defenseless?

I took it as just a silly question, not meant to be taken too seriously.
Gabe Santiago

* I hope that was a passing fad of Geummi; if anyone appreciates her just being one of the most beautiful woman in K-Pop, it’s me! Please Geummi, accept the fact that as a woman, you won the DNA lottery! Be proud of your femininity; we don’t have enough of it! ♥

so

we have to support our idols and love them but we have to to point out their wrongs too sometimes.of course we don’t know the whole case but we know for sure that she didn’t inform her company and her members about her marriage when its a serious thing itself.its a bad and unprofessional thing to do to the company that employ you and to your fellow group that success and well being is connected so i can justify some comments said that they are sad about her behavior when clearly all the members this whole time with their statements support her

Drakis07

Like i said we know nothing about the true, yeah maybe she not said about the mariage to the company, but do you truly know what the members and Chrome truly knew. Soyul and Moon did date a few months before announcing the wedding, maybe the members knew it all along about the dating and how it could end with a mariage, maybe Soyul asked advice to the members or even Chrome staff before deciding to get marry. We don’t know anything at all, all the rest are just theories and rumors. If we don’t know what truly happened and the true, why would we judge her and say what she did is right or wrong. Sometime lot of people forget that idols are humans and that they got their personal life and yeah like all humans they can make mistake, but what are we to judge their mistake and their personal life. Me i’m sad because our fandom is being destroy from inside just because of theories and rumors and fans are turning against each others. We should be united and not divided.
- so
  
  of course we don’t know the whole case like i said.you say a lot maybe in your text too(theories and rumors)they could know about the dating but from chrome’s official announcement they said that them and the members didn’t know anything about the mariage plans this is a fact(they are not little kids playing around) she could easily write a statement call them liars or whatever,she didn’t.i am old enough to have my opinion over an official announcement that her behavior was unprofessional to her company and her members when she could easily inform them.
  end of the story.either she returns or not i will still support crayon pop no matter what.
  - Drakis07
    
    Yes, that is true that it’s a fact that the wedding plans was a surprise to all including the members and Chrome no matter what they knew or not about it and like that is true that you have the right to have your opinions and judge her all you want. Anyway the whole point of my first comment here was more about the fandom of Crayon pop is divided and not united like it used to be like fans will hate and fight others fans like fans will hate on Soyul and other fans will hate on the other members and those fans will hate each others and they will be a war between sketchbooks. If that is not making you sad a little, not sure what else to say.
    - so
      
      sadly things like that happend in groups is something we can’t avoid. each one of us have their opinion. sometimes is a good thing i’ ll get this whole discussion as something positive because we the fans were able to discuss as a group about our concerns.hope crayon pop goes even more strong because i want badly to see them in person.
    - Drakis07
      
      I always thought Crayon pop fandom to be mature, supportive and close to the girls and we fans were there to support them when they had a hard time at their debut, so i was hoping that it would be the same with this hard time and not a war inside the fandom. Most of us are suppose to be adult around 30-45+ years old so we are supposed to be mature adult. I did get the chance to meet them in person once and for me they are more then just a girl group, more then just idols i consider them like my little sisters. I wish too that all will go for the best for them. I just wish too that the fandom will stay united like it used to be in the past to support the girls. From my point of view there is no one to be blame but just life and Soyul, Geummi, Ellin, Way and Choa did nothing wrong, life just happened.
    - so
      
      well i think crayon pop fans are from the most mature ones in kpop.i am 23 myself and i find it good that we have this discussion in our page its doesn’t make us less mature.the truly sad cases are ‘fans’ like Gabe Santiago that go around and tell such bad things about the members without reason and i find it really sweet and heartwarming that a lot come out and support all the girls.i really hope to meet them too someday.have a nice day!
    - Drakis07
      
      well, i’m 40 so i got lot of life experience that’s why i was trying to cool down the youngsters like Gab because i know that lot of “Maybe”, theories and rumors can be very negative and dangerous for a group like a fandom. I wish you that you meet them one day, they are truly very good, sweet young lady down to heart with a big and warm hearts. It’s always nice to have a nice discussion like that within the respect and honesty. Have a nice day too.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *Message to “Drakis07” I appreciate your entreaties for cooler heads to prevail; I couldn’t agree with you more. I must, however, take exception to the term “youngsters” – If you’re going to insult me, or attempt to be lamely condescending, you might take the time to do it correctly. My name “Drakis Baby” is not “Gab”, it’s Gabe; short for Gabriel; you might want to consider that before pissing off an arc angel; (LOL) I believe I’ve been quite mature about the whole affair. It would seem that everyone else on this thread are getting their panties in a twist. Nothing I’ve said justifies the level of hyper-defensiveness, or for that matter the utter hysteria. What I expressed was a genuine concern for what I believe is a degree of coldness & unfairness directed at Soyul. Her fiancé deserves some measure of respect as well. Let’s get some perspective here, people. We are talking about show business & those who live in it. Break-ups and backstabbing happens all too often, regrettably. Frankly with fans like “asd” Crayon Pop doesn’t need any enemies. I hope nothing but the best for all of the girls. AND I will always stand up for those who find themselves unfairly attacked & unable to defend themselves as anyone should have the right to do. So let’s us, at least agree on that, shall we folks? So Snap Out Of It!
    - Drakis07
      
      OK, Gabe, Defending someone is one thing, defending someone by attacking and bashing others is a other things. Yes for me you ARE a youngster because you didn’t show me any proves that you are a mature adult. You did attacked and bashed the other members and said bad things about them in the name of defending, so in clear language you did the exact same things that you say others did to your very biased Soyul. So that make you in the same boat as them. If someone steal from you would you steal from them and call that fair justice? If you think like that well you are no better that the persons you say is bashing and attacking Soyul. Oh, and don’t you think that i think that the others are better. Anyway i think that Soyul would be sad about the way you tried to defend her by bashing her other members and other people. No one and not Soyul has asked you to be her defender or protector, by trying doing that you will just increase the conflict and the hate. So think about how your words and act can affect others.
      
      Finally don’t think that i want to insult you, i’m just trying to stop those stupid conflict by trying to show you a more mature way. live and let’s live. Oh, and please don’t try to insult me you would hit a wall. So make peace not war.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *”My Dear Drakis” – not that I have to prove anything to you; you wouldn’t understand; but for the record, I will forget more about maturity than you obviously will ever learn; at least up to this point. But I have hope for you that someday you will get it. Your hysterics and distorted view of the facts and situation not withstanding, you seem like a sincere & reasonable sort; so I’m allowing for your petulant, if not arrogant rant. Again, not that I need to prove myself to you and the rest of you “fan-atics”, but I have done more to enable peace & harmony between people than you’ll ever know. For the record, I’ve always stated that I could be entirely wrong in my assessment; and that I would be the first to offer up a full public apology, right here on this thread; should that day come & the circumstances call for it. I believe I raised a legitimate point, initially, but if you disagree, I guess that’s your prerogative & right to state any opinion you choose to make. You disappoint me, “Drak” – that being said, I will leave you to the comfort of your hubris.
    - Drakis07
      
      Wow, just wow, i didn’t believe that you was so full of your-self and that you see any creatures on earth lower then you like shit and that you believe to be god and that you have the ulimate true and wisdom. So i’m so sorry oh supreme one to want to have reasonable discussion with you. You are truly just a kid, you don’t even know of what being mature means. I tried to be polite with you and i tried to stop our fandom to be divided. You don’t fucking care about the fandom, the 4 others girls and you don’t fucking care about Soyul and Moon, you only care about you and you defending Soyul and sense of justice is bullshit you just want to be seen as her little defender and get a place in the spotlight.
      You can call me any names that you want or try to bashing me and lower me, insults from a little kid like you is pathetic and like water on a duck back. I had hope for you but you just wasted my time what a shame.
      Maybe you should be banned from this website, because i don’t see a place for you here. Me i’m done with a immature kid like you, see you. Oh and remember that even arc-angels like Gabriel can fall from heaven and fall into disgrace.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *Just like a typical Left-Wing/ Progressive; when you can’t win the argument on merit or intellect, or maturity, you devolve into rants & curse words & tantrums. The only one “full of one’s self” is you. And as for being polite, at least I know how to conduct myself on public social media without the use of profanity. Admit it, “Drakis”, but you won’t – you’ve lost the argument. I’ve tried to be nice, but apparently there’s not enough room for your hubris or your ego. Maybe it is you who should be banned. I, however don’t believe in “banning” people, or censorship. I believe that everyone has a God given right to make a complete fool of themselves. I won’t play the role you’ve been playing as of late – that of the proverbial “tin-plated” dictator. Give my regards to your fellow oligarchs Kim & Vlad.
    - Drakis07
      
      It’s funny how you like to lower, insult and bash others to make you feel almighty and smart with none-sense words. I’M NOT the one who started that conflict here, YOU DID by bashing the other members and other peoples here without proves and with your fake sense of justice, someone mature would have kept their mean opinions for them-self because they would know that it would start and increase a conflict and they would have some considerations for others people feelings. I guess humility and sympathy is not in your vocabulary.
      Unlike you i NEVER took a side and judge or blame Soyul or the other members, i prefer wait and see what will happen and have more real informations rather then speculate and judge to see if someone did something wrong or right. That is what maturity should be. All i did here was to try to stop the conflict by remind others to stay united and not divided because all we had was rumors and theories and no real informations. If you want to compare me to your US politics i will compare you to Trump who think everyone else are idiots and who think that they are smarter and always right.
      
      Finally, yeah oh supreme wise one i got nothing else to say to you, think that i lost the argument or not for what i care. You are just someone who is heartless, who only care for him-self and worse who think that he is never wrong and who is totally hopeless and that is my LAST comment to you, think whatever you want of me i don’t really care, that won’t stop me to sleep well at night. So see ya.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *I’m not better than anyone else; I’m just better than you. You’re not just an hysteric, you’re a ball-faced liar. Anyone & everyone are welcome to examine all of my communiques. The grown-ups on this thread will decide for themselves who is right; not that I’m obsessed with that; you apparently are. You’re not fooling anyone with your hypersensitive rants. You and your misguided “fans”, just keep on being silly & ridiculous beyond words. I’ve better things to do. You can go back downstairs to your parent’s basement, now.
    - Gabe Santiago
      
      *I’m not better than everyone, I’m just better than you. You’re not just a hysterical fan, you’re a ball-faced liar. Anyone can view my comments on this thread – I trust the grown-ups here can evaluate for themselves who is right or wrong; not that I’m obsessed with that; you “Drakis”, appear to be. You and the rest of these hypersensitive “fans” who can’t handle honest criticism can continue having your tantrums; I’ve better things to do. You can go back downstairs to your parent’s basement, now.
- so
  
  plus of course she must has a personal life but she is the one to be blamed for her way to announce her plans.all this could be easily avoided if she act with maturity don’t you think that if someone read/hear that a company doesn’t know about their idol (didn’t inform) plans over a mariage that something is wrong?thats how rumors are born.so who is the one to blame?the fans?

Paul Nikel

All I can see is a lot of very passionate fans some who are feeling uncertain and some are feeling confident of what happens next. I think any unhappy fans are more at odds with the marriage than anything else (as we have no other facts) which is a shame because if you actually are true fans of Soyul (Crayon Pop) you would be happy for her and trust her that she will be back soon.

p.s for the sake of fans that think there is a real issue between the members (I don’t btw).. I recommend that all 5 members watch Crayon Pop TV to remind themselves how great they are together and if you meant anything to each other then mistakes (as the few unhappy fans feel it is) can be forgiven. I personally am looking foward to Soyul coming back. Crayon Pop Fighting!!!

WayE.keu.bo.deu

Still love CP no matter what. By the way, anyone else seen El-Goddess lately? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1363fd0f7f69a2d99f25161f4b66fc3e2a4c524f47ae79f1fbbbb641b616c583.jpg

Drakis07

Well i know that she is still active on her instagram.
- WayE.keu.bo.deu
  
  She is the insta-queen no doubt
- Clay
  
  Ellin posts a lot to Instagram. She has the most followers in the group but Way is close behind.
tern

what is this?why i see that just now?el-pro!!
- Drakis07
  
  Well, more like el-hotness or el-sexy with that pic lol 😛
Clay

BINGO!!!
John Vawter

Put some clothes on young lady! No daughter of mine is going out in public dressed like that!

CP Ranger

Great googily moogily! What in the Sam Hill is happening in here? All this started from Soyul’s SNUF BOX advertisement? Geez, I’m tempted to purchase a bunch of Soyul’s SNUF BOXes and send them to all the Sketchbooks around the world as a display of the kindness that Crayon Pop fans are known for. There’s probably only 100 of us so I can afford…the cheapest option. :p

Want to take a guess as to why there hasn’t been a lot of news from anyone, including the other Crayon Pop members, about Soyul’s marriage? Probably because what is happening in here among fans who actually love Crayon Pop, would be even worse in the general public. Chrome Ent CEO knows that and is probably making sure everyone is being careful.

Yes, we are all worried about Crayon Pop’s future. They bring us an amazing amount of happiness and we want that to continue. That’s why there are so many fans who are passionate about this situation. We can discuss it all we want and put forward our opinions, but at least try to keep things in perspective and not get too judgmental.

Soyul has found true love. Is anyone here really going to be angry at her for being in love? Moon Hee Jun asked her to marry him and she said, ‘yes.’ Unless, Soyul was the one who proposed. Hmm… maybe she was. Anyways, Moon Hee Jun knew he was going to propose to Soyul, so he had more time to prepare for the wedding news. And the rest after that is just speculation and opinion.

Remember that one time Choa shared a story on her Instagram about an elderly couple who have been together for 76 years? Ya, I wish that kind of life long happiness for all the Crayon Pop members.
https://crayonpop.me/150909-choas-instagram-translated/

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Clay

Soyuls priority should be to her new family. I hope she performs occasionally but only if it doesn’t interfere with her primary role as wife and mother. Family should always come first.

Jason J. Shaw

I guess if she is pregnant, it would all make sense!

ezekiel

she looks so beautiful.. ^^
MHJ is a lucky bastard.. LOL..XD

Gabe Santiago

* A very beautiful couple; wishing them every happiness! ~ 아주 아름다운 커플; 그들에게 모든 행복을 기원합니다! ♥

haus

WTF, she takes on an advertisement job with her boyfriend…. yet she refuses to do any work/appearances for Crayon pop no matter how small the job. and she claims that she is still with Crayon pop. If she’s busy making wedding arrangements and doing commercials, she is no longer “sick”, as if that was even the case. I would have more respect for her if she just comes out and tells the truth aka. I(Soyul) wanted to be with my boyfriend, so I abandoned my mates when they needed me the most.

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